i think we have a shot in florida. i think barack obama is going to get re-elected. >> governor barber -- >> i'm sure governor barber agrees with this, right? >> i'm trying to keep a straight face. >> governor barber, you are one of the smartest political tacticians out there. you know a lot about politics. let me ask you about where governor romney is beginning today. he's going to pennsylvania, the state that he only visited a couple of days ago, and ohio. he's going there to the cleveland area, which is northern ohio. normally a democratic stronghold. on ohio, does that suggest to you that he's underperforming in an area with noncollege educated whites which he will need in order to win ohio? >> if you suggest to me that they feel very good about the republican party for ohio, and that they have seen moves particularly throughout the month of october of swing voters, of independents, various groups that makes them think they can cut down obama's margin in cleveland and northeast ohio, as far as pennsylvania is conce